Anyone wanna see a SmartCog - KOMA 3 Speed?

by **Guest** on Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:38 am

Amuro Lee wrote:A golden KOMA!
http://www.occn.zaq.ne.jp/senmuchan/koma_diary.html

Now this thing looks sweet! I do like how it folds and stows away nicely and actually looks quite comfortable (from what I've read the suspension helps a lot on rough roads).

by **Guest** on Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:47 am

where can i buy a smartcog koma 3?

eric_dalalo@yahoo.com

by **Guest** on Mon May 26, 2008 9:39 pm

Wah!! Such a different colour. And with Aero Handlebars too. Hmmm, I'm very curious what sort of speed this rider produces. :lol:

Thanks for the posting Amuro Lee

Norman :shock:

by **Amuro Lee** on Mon May 26, 2008 8:22 pm

A golden KOMA!
http://www.occn.zaq.ne.jp/senmuchan/koma_diary.html

by **Weakling** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:11 pm

That seems to be a very accurate description.
Typical of me not knowing such differences.

Here in Europe we have different laws in different
regions too. But the EU central tray to "harmonize"
every law so they should be enforced all over.

Car license and traffic regulations. You Moped Moppet?
and Vespa and Motorbikes and such all have different
rules in different regions so they had some years for us
to adjust to these should be compatible in future.

We had limit of 30 kmtrs per hour of the Moped but the
EU Moped had 45kmtres limit so they where illegal here locally.

Same with Cars. France had small Cars that didn't need any
driver license. Not allowed here so we had to change our law
to make Sweden compatible.

So in China then it is only a matter of time until they have
laws on copyright and protection of design pattern?

They have to adjust to be able to sell outside of China?

I still wish that the company in China that made a 8" version
of A-bike could make their own design so we who are tall and
heavy will be able to buy a strong small bike that is easy to
take with us on a crowded bus and train.

A-bike is very smart that way that it folds so small.

Did not the Designer of A-bike promise that they have
no motivation to make that bigger version.

So I hope the company that made the bigger version could
put some energy into doing enough changes so the result
will be legal and thus a possible success due to being the
just a bit bigger than the smallest folder.

by **Amuro Lee** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:36 pm

Because the laws and jurisdictions are different between mainland China and Hong Kong SAR, I think.
(Those who openly tell about their making and selling of counterfeit A-bikes are in mainland China.)

Besides, our legal systems and concepts about law are different too.
Mainland China - Continental law
Hong Kong SAR - Common law
Mainland China - Rule by law/rule of men
Hong Kong SAR - Rule of law

Those created a lot of legal/political conflicts between us in the past 10 years. :cry:

by **Weakling** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:47 pm

Neither do I!

I should use the search but I feel more motivated to do other things.

I remember vaguely that you or somebody else did link to a text about dealers, local chop owners who had sold faked A-bikes in Hong Kong and they got the supply confiscated and themselves take to the Police station if I remember.

I menton it cause it struck me that why did they take them and doesn't seem to care about numerous others that openly tell about their making and selling of them.

so something must be different about them. Could it be they don't claim they are the makers of the Original A-bike? what else could explain it?

by **Amuro Lee** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:36 pm

Weakling wrote:Maybe Amuro or Garry knows more?

Actually, I know nothing about it. :oops:

by **Weakling** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:14 pm

they also have a knock off of the A-Bike!

Yes it is surprising cause dealers have been dealt with when they did.

So could it be about how one present the bike.
(I'm only guessing ) If they say it is the original
then they get busted but if they name it something
else then maybe the copyright protection is less strong?

I mean the name is protected but the pattern, how it folds
maybe are not? Strida could have protected how it folds?

I wonder how George Lin thought about his Carryme.
Has he protected how it folds?

Maybe Amuro or Garry knows more?

by **Archer-ca** on Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:19 pm

Weakling wrote:Thanks, yes it is more like a little brother trying to mimic his more
engineer type brother and making a mock up of what he remembers
before his brother thrown him out to play Basket Ball or whatever.

The little brother not remembering all the details and making a simpler thing.

Brand. Hm have to look it up again. I get back. Here it is:
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/cngreen/product-detailDeCxWXTMnmcj/China-Mini-Bike-Folding-Bike-YQ-010-.html

Quoting
Company Name: Zhejiang Yongqing Industry And Trade Co., Ltd.
Company Address: No. 252, Xizhong East Road, Hardware City,
Yongkang, Jinhua, Zhejiang, China
City/Province: Jinhua/Zhejiang
Country/Region: China
Zip/Postal Code: 321300
Telephone Number: 86-579-87217733
Fax Number: 86-579-87217773
Contact Person: Mr Qi
Position: General Manager

so either they use the generic name Mini Bike
as the product name or they don't tell or me
fail to see it. The YQ-10 is the number that the
ad add to it. that is not chosen by the company.

Now that's a thorough reply! Thank you for the details! I looked around the website and noticed they also have a knock off of the A-Bike! :shock:

Norman

by **Weakling** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:59 pm

Thanks, yes it is more like a little brother trying to mimic his more
engineer type brother and making a mock up of what he remembers
before his brother thrown him out to play Basket Ball or whatever.

The little brother not remembering all the details and making a simpler thing.

Brand. Hm have to look it up again.

I get back. Here it is:
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/cngreen/product-detailDeCxWXTMnmcj/China-Mini-Bike-Folding-Bike-YQ-010-.html

Quoting
Company Name: Zhejiang Yongqing Industry And Trade Co., Ltd.
Company Address: No. 252, Xizhong East Road, Hardware City,
Yongkang, Jinhua, Zhejiang, China
City/Province: Jinhua/Zhejiang
Country/Region: China
Zip/Postal Code: 321300
Telephone Number: 86-579-87217733
Fax Number: 86-579-87217773
Contact Person: Mr Qi
Position: General Manager

so either they use the generic name Mini Bike
as the product name or they don't tell or me
fail to see it. The YQ-10 is the number that the
ad add to it. that is not chosen by the company.

by **Archer-ca** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:54 pm

Weakling wrote:Norman did you manage to sell it?

I've found a bike that could be inspired by smartcog Koma in how it folds.

A much simpler bike but to my untrained eyes the thinking is a bit same.

I know others don't agree with me but that could due to be having so
little experience in designing folders.

Mini-Bike is such generic name. Not sure what the real name for it is.

Woweeee! Good find, Weakling!! :shock:

That look's like KOMA's little brother!! :lol:

Yes, the design is very similar in folding into a letter "N". What brand is it?

No, unfortunately I did not sell the KOMA yet. I am considering to sell for a little bit less now. If anyone is interested they can PM me with a reasonable offer.

Cheers!

Norman

by **Weakling** on Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:36 pm

Norman did you manage to sell it?

I've found a bike that could be inspired by smartcog Koma in how it folds.

A much simpler bike but to my untrained eyes the thinking is a bit same.

I know others don't agree with me but that could due to be having so
little experience in designing folders.

Mini-Bike is such generic name. Not sure what the real name for it is.

by **gene** on Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:21 pm

i really like the koma bike however will my weight be a problem at 210lbs

by **Archer-ca as Guest** on Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:28 pm

Weakling wrote:If one could afford it it sure looks great and the suspension may give the owner a smother ride for sure. I like the way it behaves when it's folded.

You bought that one from Japan to England. I wonder if that would make it easier for me to get my Carryme through Japan to Sweden or is it best to take it from Taiwan to Sweden?

anyway thanks for the review and pics and the link to the google translation.

Hi Weakling.

Glad you enjoyed the review and pics. Yes, it does give a very smooth ride once you've dialed in the shock for your weight. I get lots of double takes when I roll on by on the sidewalks around the neighbourhood.

Unfortunately I have to sell this little wonder bike on Ebay now. Hope she goes to a good home.

Cheers!

Norman

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